CONTESSA BREWER: Is a poster of the President as the Joker racist? The posters in Los Angeles and elsewhere show the President as The Dark Knight version of the Joker above the word ‘socialism,’ you see it there. Except nobody seems to know who came up with this Obama image, face painted white, lipstick in the shape of an extended grin, he’s got the dark eye shadow. And no one seems to know who’s hanging them up. Phillip Kennicott is a style reporter for The Washington Post. Phillip, have you been able to get any further in finding out who’s behind it?

PHILLIP KENNICOTT: Last I checked, we still don’t know who’s done it, and I’m not sure that we will find out anytime soon.
BREWER: Alright, in your article on The Washington Post, you say – let me just give the title: ‘Obama as the Joker: Racial Fears, Ugly Face.’ Explain what you mean.
KENNICOTT: Well, I go back to the original context of the Joker in the Batman films. And these films have always been about urban fears, and quite simply, those fears code in many ways, black. They play into anti-African-American stereotypes. Which is one of the reasons I think they chose this particular comic book villain, instead of some other, to superimpose over the face of the President.

BREWER: But we – and we just put it up there – we saw George W. Bush on Vanity Fair as the Joker. I mean, then why would this be racially motivated?
KENNICOTT: Well, I mean, for the obvious reason that George Bush wasn’t black. I mean in this case, I think what they’re doing is finding an image that actually has undercurrents when applied to Obama that it simply didn’t have when it applied to Bush.

BREWER: You know, it’s interesting, because we’re seeing a lot of these trends, a lot of these questions about whether some of the attacks against Obama are really about the color of his skin. For instance, not just this Joker poster, but also, the whole birther movement. Do you think that maybe there’s not enough attention being paid to how many of the attacks really still are about the color of our President’s skin?

KENNICOTT: I think we’re going to be having two conversations in this country about the President for a long time. There’s going to be a political conversation and then there’s going to be a racial conversation, which we obviously haven’t about any previous president, because he’s the first African-American president. And it’s very difficult to separate those two conversations. And there’s a lot of sensitivity when people feel the other side in a debate crosses the line. But I think, absolutely, we need to continue looking at what are the legitimate political arguments and where – where racially coded arguments are coming in. And that doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re racist arguments, but being aware of how race is playing into imagery.In the 4PM hour, anchor David Shuster teased an upcoming discussion about the posters:
BREWER: Alright, Phillip, thanks.

"Meanwhile, conservative sites are posting this image of President Obama. Where is the bashing going to lead?" A still shot of the poster was shown on screen with the headline: "Right-Wing Hate?" During the later segment, Shuster asked Democratic strategist Julian Epstein: "A lot of conservative websites have been running essentially a shot of President Obama where he looks like Heath Ledger, the Joker from ‘Batman,’ and it says ‘Socialism’ underneath it. He’s got sort of a white scary face. Is that appropriate? Does that cross the line?"Hmmm...Appropriate? I don't know, Shuster? Where exactly IS the line?
Is this over the line:
Or this: Is Sarah Palin a poster girl for racism?
Or this: Town Meeting Protestors 'Taking a Page Right Out of a Nazi Playbook?
Or this:
Maybe this was over the line? Sarah Palin getting divorced.
Or any one of the images I added above? Why the fuss over one anonymous poster?
Racist? I don't think so...
i don't know if it's racist, but i do find it too much.
ReplyDelete"I think we’re going to be having two conversations in this country about the President for a long time. There’s going to be a political conversation and then there’s going to be a racial conversation, which we obviously haven’t about any previous president, because he’s the first African-American president. And it’s very difficult to separate those two conversations."
ReplyDeleteI think that more than being "very difficult" to separate them, it is just "very easy" to try and confuse them, so you have an easy way out of everything. From what is known for sure about Obama's origins, he almost surely is what is known as "black", or "afro-american". That is pretty much a simple fact.
That this fact can be used as a motive to label any inconvenient criticism of Obama's actions or policies as President "racist" is too much of a stretch. Not that racially motivated attacks aren't possible, but to be honest, since when are claims of "socialism" tied to the race of the socialist being called that? I surely didn't realize that socialism was a typically black or white phenomenon. The POTUS is, and always has been a prime target for a variety of politically motivated attacks. Some of the older political cartoons from a century ago are quite stinging, by today's standards, and often called in racism where it had no real role, if you go back and look at them, but that just reflected the public situation of segregated racism in the US culture of the time. But just because he's a target, it shouldn't be construed that he is a target only because he is the first afro-american President.
He ran for President, he should have realized that that would make him a target, I would think. But I agree wholeheartedly, racism doesn't come into play here.
The whole "Batman" thing, even with the whiteface makeup, is, I think, reference to the dark-hearted villainous actions of the badguy in an exaggerated cartoon world. From there to say that all the villains in Batman are reference to the black population of big-city Gotham seems a stretch. Where do we put Penguin: anti-aviary? And Riddler: anti-enigmatist? And Catwoman: anti-feline? Mah! Please.
Okay, so the Joker poster is not racist. Now do you honestly believe that there hasn't been a spate of completely off the wall inappropriate signs and pamphlets comparing Obama to Hitler?
ReplyDeleteNow do you honestly believe that there hasn't been a spate of completely off the wall inappropriate signs and pamphlets comparing Bush to Hitler?
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately for Obama his liberal politics are much more in step with Hitlers German socialism than the conservative principles that undergirded the Bush administration. It's really quite stunning, Hitler was for abortion, nationalized healthcare, mandated public service, nationalizing private industry...
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ReplyDeletewhatever do you mean? Bush was, rather is, I mean always has been and always will be evil and horribly corrupted just like Hitler was, while the great wonderful and magnificent O is just trying to save us from ourselves, and is neither malintentioned nor corrupt. He grew out of a grassroots movement like the mighty oaks of the great forests of our country (Acorn), and is so young that he could never be subject to corruption.
Now please get out of the way, and keep your mouth shut, so he can clean up the mess that is facing him without useless distractions...
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ReplyDeleteThanks for visiting and posting at my blog, Women State. I'm glad you liked my "fishy" warning pic, LOL. I had fun making it!
I had seen your collage and well documented post since I always read what you have to say. I love your posts and "Sara in Italy" will always have a place in WS as it has for many months.
Thank you for keeping us informed!
Amarissa
Hi again! I noticed you linked my blog, thanks! However, I must inform you that I have none, whatsoever, crafting abilities!LOL! I think you better move me to politics before I start getting questions about how to make some artistic personal article, I am pretty bad at it and have become famous for my not so pretty tries at it! LOL
ReplyDeletewhoops! haha that's what happens when i multi-task!
ReplyDeleteWell, after viewing the MSNBC video above, I can see why no one watches that station anymore!!!
ReplyDeleteDid Obama Joker poster cross the line? You have to be kidding ... or maybe you didn't recognize the people in the montages above and realize how ugly, denigrating the caricatures are. They were created by bad, angry, deranged people. The Obama Joker poster was child's play compared to the montages.
The images of Sarah Palin are heinous, but if she complains she's "whining." Obama gets a tiny bit of the Bush treatment and the media screams "racism."
ReplyDeleteThe journalistic dishonesty in this country literally makes me weep with despair.
Don't worry, SQT, fewer and fewer people really are buying this racism nonsense anymore. Only the pc morons, condescending "liberal thinking" nitwits and others with their heads firmly up their backsides. Whoops! I guess that's a lot! Oh well.....
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ReplyDeleteWhat is SQT?
The Poster above's name is SQT, who's in despair.
ReplyDeleteoh duh! hahaha I thought you were calling me a little pet name. hehe
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